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SearchMy Stuff What's New:3:12:24:72 My ProfileMy PreferencesMy Mates RSS Feed Reply to Topic Author Discussion Petrolhead_Rich Original Poster 2,130 posts 32 months [report] [news]  Tuesday 8th June Hi all,Thinking of buying an E36 BMW 3 series, looking to spend between 1000 and 1500I'm going to be doing alot of miles so have to consider MPG's and reliability so here's the question, for a spirited driver, what would be best 328i or a 325tds?I've heard 325tds need more regular servicing and can cost more to fix, plus I prefer petrols as they are smoother and I find them easier to troubleshoot/repair.But then is the 328 going to be mega thirsty??Can anyone tell me what i would expect from a 328i cruising at around 95MPH (yes i know its illegal!) vs a 325TDs at the same speed, as generally that's what I drive at and I know my current diesel (04 S40 2.0D drinks like there's no tomorrow at that speed, giving me around 30MPG!!!)also any horror stories for either modelmay also consider a 325i but from what i hear there's nothing in it???Thanks All S3_Graham 4,667 posts 39 months [report] [news]  Tuesday 8th June my 328 at 80 returns roughly 34 mpg. neil_bolton 15,313 posts 104 months [report] [news]  Tuesday 8th June S3_Graham said: my 328 at 80 returns roughly 34 mpg.You sure chum? That's really rather high. Try that figure at around 65 to 70.At 100mph for 100 miles, I saw 22mpg.At 55mph I saw 37mpg. S3_Graham 4,667 posts 39 months [report] [news]  Tuesday 8th June neil_bolton said: S3_Graham said: my 328 at 80 returns roughly 34 mpg.You sure chum? That's really rather high. Try that figure at around 65 to 70.At 100mph for 100 miles, I saw 22mpg.At 55mph I saw 37mpg.my speedo is quite out.. its probably more like 75 tbh but im averaging 34 and other other driving i do is small town runs so will be much worse than the long runs up the M4! im rather impressed tbh. ay better than the alfa. Would you larger intake mean more air thus more fuel?? B19GRR 1,506 posts 96 months [report] [news]  Tuesday 8th June My old TDS (manual touring with chip) used to return mid-fourties in day to day use if I remember and it was pretty reliable considering it had been to the moon and back. Had a few things go wrong, leak from fuel feed caused starting issues (pointlessly changed glow plugs), oil cooler unions had corroded so was leaking. Overall though pretty reliable. It's a more basic engine that the current diesels so probably a bit more robust. Likewise my 528 (Auto single vanos) has been very decent, best tankful I got was 34mpg last year in the summer for my regular (140mile) commute. That dropped to 29ish in winter. Only engine problem I've had was the thermostat sticking open in the winter (brrrrr).I'd say for spirited driving you'd be wanting the 328 but depends on the distances you do really. I always though the old TeDiouS was quite fun and the rev needle did occasionally get near the 5k mark but it was a bit dead below 2k.You need old SniffPetrol/Diesel to show up!Cheers,Rob Advertisement JimexPL 1,074 posts 52 months [report] [news]  Tuesday 8th June E36 speedos tend to be quite inaccurate. Both of mine over read by about 8mph at an indicated 85.Very few cars are going to give sensible mpg at nearly 100mph as the gearing won't be suited. A 7.0 Z06 will give you about 25mpg at a steady 100, which is excellent for the size/performance of the engine, but then it is only doing 2,000rpm...If you dropped your speed to 75 in the S40 it would return 40-45mpg.Our 323 and 328 both do about 34mpg at 75, but drop if used on the continent at around 95 to 26ish mpg.Can't comment on the tds as I've only driven them over short periods, but I doubt it would give much more than 30mpg at 95.If you are bothered about consumption you need to slow down! Devil2575 895 posts 28 months [report] [news]  Tuesday 8th June Buy a 328. The 325 tds was good in it's day but that was 15 years ago. They not anything like as economical as modern diesels and now that they're getting older there's plenty of stuff to go wrong.Just be aware of potential Nikasil issues with a 328.I owned a 328 and it was possible to get bewteen 30 and 40mpg on a run but not if you have a heavy right foot. On a motorway at 70mpg you should easily see 35mpg. Edited by Devil2575 on Tuesday 8th June 14:43 sparkythecat 4,064 posts 95 months [report] [news]  Tuesday 8th June I had an auto 328 touring for over 5 years.It averaged around 27mpg, On a good long motorway run at a steady 80 it would do 32mpgOther than routine servicing, it had some rear suspension bushes replaced and the gearbox ECU replaced.Edited by sparkythecat on Tuesday 8th June 22:05 nottyash 1,733 posts 35 months [report] [news]  Wednesday 9th June I had a e36 328i coupe 1998 model, It averaged 38mpg at 80-85 on long motorway runs, no where near that around town, but a great cruising machine. Fantastic MPG for a large engine. sniff diesel 12,972 posts 52 months [report] [news]  Wednesday 9th June B19GRR said: You need old SniffPetrol/Diesel to show up!Didn't think 29 was that old!I've had a 325tds touring manual for a couple of years, chipped to 170bhp it provided plenty of pulling power and averaged about 36mpg (I do tend to drive quite hard) best mpg was 48mpg on the motorway with a heavy load on the roofbars, worst was about 25mpg when towing a +2tonne trailer. Once managed to average an indicated 120mph for 55-60 miles and got nearly 30mpg. Don't even bother considering a 325td (non intercooled) as my GF had one of these for a couple of years, being an auto it was dog slow and never got over 33mpg even at a steady 75mph on the motorway.I've got a couple of 328i's at the moment, as standard they have a fair bit more turn of speed, probably equal refinement to the tds when cruising on the motorway as the standard gearing is very long. My other 328i is modified a bit with lower gearing and a M50 manifold so economy is compromised in favour of better acceleration. I'd say the tds will give 25-30% better economy in like for like driving, but finding one that hasn't done mega mileage will be harder than finding a nice 328i as the diesel's tend to be used as workhorses. running cost wise I find no difference in parts and servicing costs for petrol or diesels.Realistically you'll have to test drive both and see what suits your style the best, if you're near Shrewsbury give us a shout and I'll let you have a go in a 328i. Petrolhead_Rich Original Poster 2,130 posts 32 months [report] [news]  Friday 18th June Thanks for all your replies, but in the end I bought an Audi A4 2.8 30v V6 with the flappy paddle gearbox, and fyi im getting 29-33mpg from it average.I would have gone for the beemer, but flappy paddles kinda sold the audi to me!!!Thanks again! bodhi 1,593 posts 69 months [report] [news]  Friday 18th June Seems a bit to me like going out for a steak and ending up at McDonalds, but hey, each to their own.For reference I bought a 328i around 3 months ago, and have average 30.1 over a range of driving. It also goes like stink and has one of the finest engines in the world (mine has the steel liners). I would have another in half a heartbeat. caboosemoose 5,823 posts 69 months [report] [news]  Sunday 20th June S3_Graham said: my 328 at 80 returns roughly 34 mpg.Doubtful, you need to drive like an absolute lentilist to get that figure. It is possible, but not at all easy to achieve in the real world. That said, the 328i does have quite long gearing, so it's pretty decent on fuel for long journeys. It will guzzle if you press on, though. I averaged about 20mpg in mine driving like I stole it at all times.nottyash said: I had a e36 328i coupe 1998 model, It averaged 38mpg at 80-85 on long motorway runsNo it didn't.Edited by caboosemoose on Sunday 20th June 03:11 An Oasis 123 posts 28 months [report] [news]  Sunday 20th June S3_Graham said: my 328 at 80 returns roughly 34 mpg.Did Cheshire to London and back the other night in my wifes 328, digi readout says 34.4 & had the cruise control set to 80 cleptons for most of the journey. 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See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitions- opens in a new window or tab... Read moreabout the conditionManufacturer: BMWColour: WhiteModel: 325 TDS TOURING AUTOEngine Size: 2,498 ccType: EstatePower: --Mileage: 186000Seats: 5Doors: 5MOT Expiry: Apr 2011Model Year: 1999Drive Side: --Reg. Date: 21 Jun 1999Road Tax: Apr 2011Reg. Mark: T*** *** Get the Vehicle Status Report Exterior: Alloy Wheels, Catalytic Converter, Tow BarPrevious Owners: 6V5 Document: --Transmission: AutomaticManufacturer's Warranty: --Fuel: DieselIn-Car Audio: AM/FM Stereo, CD PlayerService History: --Interior/Comfort Options: Auxiliary heating, Climate Control, Power Locks, Power WindowsSafety Features: Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS), Driver Airbag, Passenger Airbag, Rear seat belts2.5, 6 cylinder, turbo diesel. taxed and mot until april 2011. fitted with dog guard, tow bar, 16 inch alloys, electric windows and mirrors. pas, abs, airbags, cd stereo, roof bars, interior in good condition. bad points- small dent on n/s wheel arch. heater blower not working, but car still warms up (fan does not blow at max). noise coming from the front of the car between 40-50mph, suspected wheel bearing!, there is no play on wheels. this does not effect the driving of the car. ~(will need investigation.) a few rust spots here and there. apart from that this car has never let me down and has always been reliable. good on fuel for a big car, between 40-45mpg on a run. reason for sale; just bought a 4x4 viewing recomend contact alistair 07900954101 or 01692536817Questions and answers about this item No questions or answers have been posted about this item. Ask a question00200Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing.Postage and packagingItem location: northwalsham, Norfolk, United KingdomDispatches to: United Kingdom  Estimated deliveryVariesPostal insuranceNot offeredReturn policyThe seller will not accept returns for this item.Sellers may be required to accept returns for items that are not as described. 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Use of this website constitutes acceptance of the eBay User Agreement and Privacy Policy. || BMWLand: Where Power Meets Control A BMW Forum for UK BMW owners : Where Power Meets Control Skip to content BMW Forum Portal » BMW Forum: BMWLand ‹ BMW Forums: Cars & Bikes - 1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, X, Z Series ‹ 3 Series BMW Forum Change font size BMWLand Rules FAQ Gallery Register Login 325 TDS knock - diesel knock? Discussions on the BMW 3 series: E21, E30, E36, E46, E90, E91, E92, E93 Moderators: Matt H, Moderators Write comments 5 posts • Page 1 of 1 325 TDS knock - diesel knock? by glenc » Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:53:44 UTC Hi, from what I read, it seems I have what has been called a Diesel Knock. Not being too clued up on diesels I am not sure what that is! So, can someone please help this dunce? I have a 96 325 TDS which stood for a couple of months. Before ceasing use, it ran like a dream (well, sort-of, besides the trouble starting that most seem to experience!). Now I finally got it started again and there is a hell of a knock at idle. Rev it up and it's fine. What is that and how do I fix it? Ppppllllleeeaaasssee Many thanks glenc Posts: 27 Joined: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:54:27 UTC Top by Barry911 » Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:06:33 UTC Is it definitely coming from the engine? If it sounds more like a gearbox rattle that dissappears as the revs come up around 800-850, it might be a little wear in the duel mass flywheel. If that's the case, then the long period out of use may be resulting in a low-ish idle speed, which may come back up with use. Otherwise (if you are sure it's the engine), I'd check the oil level and quality as a starting point, and also coolant. After that, nothing really springs to mind. I've heard of some engines (not these though) having headgasket leaks, or porous cylinder blocks / heads, which allow coolant to seep into the combustion chamber gradually over several weeks. When the engine is re-started, it hydraulics, leading to a bend rod(s). Like I say, I've not heard of it on a BMW though, let alone a TDS. Keep in mind that these excellent engines are super-strong, and far longer lasting than the next generation ones. It's pretty unlikely that something's let go just because of disuse. BTW, is it smoking unduly / more than it used to? If so, black, white or blue smoke? Current: 1999 E36 323i Touring. Previous: 2000 E46 330i Touring, 1997 E36 325 TDS Touring, 1994 E36 325 TD, 1990 E30 325i Touring, 1987 E30 325i, 1980 E21 323i, 1981 E21 320 Auto, 1981 E21 320. Barry911 Posts: 172 Joined: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:10:47 UTC Location: Deepest East Sussex Top by glenc » Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:44:45 UTC Thanks for the reply Barry911. I would say it is definately coming from the engine and not the gearbox. It's a thud, thud, thud kind of sound, not a rattle. Sitting in the drivers seat, it feels like it's bottom right side of engine. At around 1.5k revs it disappears. There was a lot of black smoke initially but I put that down to having stood so long. After driving her a couple of miles and then opening her up, after a rather large storm cloud of black, the exhaust blew as cleanly as it ever has. I will try draining out the oil and changing the coolant to see it that helps - certainly a cheap place to start trouble shooting! Many thanks glenc Posts: 27 Joined: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:54:27 UTC Top by Barry911 » Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:07:05 UTC Oh dear, that doesn't sound quite so good. Is it running smoothly? I.e. does it feel as though it on all cylinders? If you think that it sounds very mechanical, it's got to be worth getting someone to put a stethoscope over it, hopefully before something lets go. My thought though is that it's more likely to be non-mechanical, or at least non-piston/big/little end / mains. I.e. valve train, exhaust gasket, inlet gasket, inlet manifold etc. Obviously a bit tricky without hearing it though ... Current: 1999 E36 323i Touring. Previous: 2000 E46 330i Touring, 1997 E36 325 TDS Touring, 1994 E36 325 TD, 1990 E30 325i Touring, 1987 E30 325i, 1980 E21 323i, 1981 E21 320 Auto, 1981 E21 320. Barry911 Posts: 172 Joined: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:10:47 UTC Location: Deepest East Sussex Top by glenc » Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:38:55 UTC Thanks agan Barry911. I was hoping it may be soemthing easy I could sort out but I think it'll be best if I get it down to the folks at Munich Motors to look at it for me. FYI, when driving, it runs beautifully.....all systems firing correctly......stop the car and let her idle and the knock is there again. 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